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Wademetzinger
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Monday, December 15, 2008 - 7:47 pm   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)   
New to the Forum, just stumbled upon it while surfing for a driver side tail light bezel for my Dad's 1966 Barracuda. Hoping this will be a good resource for advice, tips and trouble shooting.

I have a '71 Cuda drag car, my wife has a '68 Cuda Street/strip and I bought my dad a '66 Cuda last year. I never really liked early A-bodies but he thought it would be neat to have one since my wife and I have 2nd and 3rd generation Cudas.

But now that we have it and have been working on it, they are really starting to grow on me so I'm becoming an early A-Body fan..

In the spring of 2007 we saw the car just off the highway at an estate auction place so we looked into it and attended the auction. It was raining and we were hoping that we detour others from coming and it did some but there were a few there looking to buy the car. The bidding started at $500 so I thought we may be able to steal it but it worked it's way up to $3000 and that was all we had to spend so we stopped bidding. As we left we all agreed that we should have kept bidding, too late now. But I thought the guy that bought the car looked familiar and I did some calling and found out who he was and had one of my buddies call him that knew him. He as a use car dealer and he just bought it to stick on his lot to attract some business but I told my buddy to find out what it would take to buy it from him and he said $500 so for $3,500 we picked up the car, this part was without my Dad's knowledge.

So as we were driving it home my Dad called and said he was going to come over to help me work on my car. So when we got there he had just got out of his car and watched us drive "his" car in the drive way... He was really excited and has been ever since. He's helped me work on both my cars for years so we though it was time for him to have a classic Mopar of his own.

Here is a pic of him driving it home:
Dad driving the cuda home 2

He drove it all over the place last year but it needed some TLC so this year we had it painted (that was a 4 week deal that turned into 9 months, doh!) Here is a pic from last weekend:
Back from the Paint Shop 3
http://metzinger.oxentenko.com/66_Cuda_Paint_rear_small.JPG

Now we are starting to put it together and convert it from a /6 to a 340, 904 and 8 3/4 so he can drive is all he wants and have some fun at the drag strip with my wife and I. I'm going to put the drive-train out of my wife's car in to his car and build her a little stronger motor and a 727. And I hope to have all this done my the end of March.... wish me luck.

Here’s a pic of my ’71 Cuda: http://metzinger.oxentenko.com/1971_Cuda.jpg
Here’s a pic of my wife’s ’68 Cuda: http://metzinger.oxentenko.com/Minnow_Launch.jpg

71 and 68: http://metzinger.oxentenko.com/1971_1968_Cudas.JPG

Thanks for setting up this Forum!

Wade Metzinger
wametzinger@yahoo.com
918-809-0987
1966 Cuda Street (dad's car) project
1968 Cuda Street/Strip (wife's car)
1971 Cuda drag car (my car)
Neilb
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Monday, December 15, 2008 - 9:41 pm   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)   
That's awesome, welcome aboard. Yes, you'll find everything you need around here I think.
'65 Barracuda Formula S
Ottawa, Ontario
http://cuda.enbcom.com
Clifcuda65
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Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 2:17 pm   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)   
Looks great Wade... Welcome to the Forum!

Clif of Arizona
Barracudabad64
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Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 4:54 pm   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)   
Wade welcome to the forum and thanks for sharing the story and pic's. The early A bodies do grow on you. I purchased my 1st Barracuda in 65 it was a formula S bought it new and then like alot of us I had to sell it after I got married the wife and I regretted that up until 2000 when I bought my 64 and then in 2001 I bought her a 65 Formula S and I don't think you will ever see us part with either one of them. You and your family have a great Christmas and good New Year enjoying the addition to the Mopar collection.
Wademetzinger
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Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 10:00 am   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)   
Thanks for the Welcomes! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you guys as well.
Wade Metzinger - 918-809-0987
1966 Cuda Street (dad's car) project
1968 Cuda Street/Strip (wife's car)
1971 Cuda drag car (my car)
Wademetzinger
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Sunday, February 01, 2009 - 3:21 pm   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)   
January has been an extremely busy month and Dad and I have made a lot of progress on his '66 Cuda. Hoping to have it on the road by the end of February… Here are some new pictures for those interested. Comments welcomed.

List of things done this month:
- Installed 340 and 904 Tranny with 9.5 Dynamic converter (We had a Milodon pan on it but we couldn't get it to fit even dropping the K-member so we put a stock pan on it. Shouldn't see over 6,000RPM and while I had the pan off I checked the rod and main bearings and replaced the HV pump with a standard volume pump and this will help prevent the stock pan from getting sucked dry..)
- Use Schumacher motor mounts and torque strap
- Installed bumper, picked them up at the Mopar Nationals in Columbus from Tri-City, very impressed with their chrome! (also installed personalize licenses plates, we are calling dad’s car “Sir Cuda” older of the 3 and to show respect…lol
- Installed passenger side tail light bezel, driver side bezel, both grills and the barracuda emblem are at the chrome shop and should be ready on Monday
- Installed the Plymouth lettering on the hood and the Barracuda emblems on the front fenders
- Reupholstered the front seats. Never done anything like this before but I thought we'd try it. Bought the foam and covers from Legendary and was very impressed. While we had the frames stripped we tied all the springs together with bailing wire (I know sounds redneck but...) and they are very firm, almost too firm. Foam when on great and covers went on great. The pictures don't do them justice because the light made it look lumpy but they are smooth and tight
- Installed new door handles and decent driver side mirror (starting to pit but can’t tell 3 feet away)
- Almost done installing 8 ¾ with 3.55 gears (should be done by Tuesday)
- Install new driveshaft

List of things left to do:
- Install Lokar throttle cable
- Install aluminum radiator
- Install aftermarket floor shifter
- Install tranny cooler and tranny lines
- Convert to dual reservoir master and make a new brake line for front passenger side
- Install Grills, driver side tail light bezel, Plymouth lettering on trunk, install weather stripping
- Run new 3/8 fuel lines
- Install headliner
- Install new dash pad
- Install headers (Spitfire) after they come back from being ceramic coated, then go to muffler shop to hook up to existing exhaust system
- Polish and install rocker molding, rear top fender trim, head light rings

Pictures were taken with my cell phone camera so they aren’t the best quality…

Front_side
Engine
Seats
Rear

More:
http://metzinger.oxentenko.com/66_Cuda/Photo029.jpg
http://metzinger.oxentenko.com/66_Cuda/Photo031.jpg
http://metzinger.oxentenko.com/66_Cuda/Photo032.jpg
http://metzinger.oxentenko.com/66_Cuda/Photo034.jpg
http://metzinger.oxentenko.com/66_Cuda/Photo035.jpg
http://metzinger.oxentenko.com/66_Cuda/Photo037.jpg
http://metzinger.oxentenko.com/66_Cuda/Photo038.jpg
http://metzinger.oxentenko.com/66_Cuda/Photo039.jpg
http://metzinger.oxentenko.com/66_Cuda/Photo040.jpg
http://metzinger.oxentenko.com/66_Cuda/Photo041.jpg
http://metzinger.oxentenko.com/66_Cuda/Photo042.jpg
http://metzinger.oxentenko.com/66_Cuda/Photo043.jpg
http://metzinger.oxentenko.com/66_Cuda/Photo044.jpg
http://metzinger.oxentenko.com/66_Cuda/Photo045.jpg
Wade Metzinger - 918-809-0987
1966 Cuda Street (dad's car) project
1968 Cuda Street/Strip (wife's car)
1971 Cuda drag car (my car)
Barracudabad64
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Monday, February 02, 2009 - 6:29 am   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)   
She is coming along very nicely. Looks like you all have a couple other classic's under cover. Keep up the good work and enjoy her. Thanks for sharing the pic's. George
Muaddib15
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Monday, February 02, 2009 - 11:09 am   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)   
how low does the 340 sit in the engine bay. Would it be possible to put a medium rise intake on it?
66 Barracuda with vinyl top all stock except for wheels. for now...

to be added at a later date:
bigger, wider wheels
360 sixpack
833 or Richmond 6 speed
Retrosound model one radio
Ricer's pwned egos >:D
Mojack
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Monday, February 02, 2009 - 5:51 pm   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)   
A 340 is identical to a 273 as far as where it sits. I have an Edelbrock LD340 intake with a Holley 750 and I have to use an Edelbrock Pro Flow air cleaner with mesh on top: http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?N=400065+300795+115&autoview=sku
Your results may vary...
64valiant
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Monday, February 02, 2009 - 5:58 pm   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)   
Cool
340, aluminum E-brock heads ported by
Ryan J @ (Shady Dell Speed shop),
six pack induction
four speed built by Passon with 2.66 first gear
8 3/4 with back brace, 4:10 gears,
spool and after market axles
mini tubed
Wademetzinger
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Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 4:31 pm   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)   
I have a Weiland Steath dual plane one it and it appears to still have room for a 750 Holley and a 2" air cleaner on it but I haven't checked yet.
Wade Metzinger - 918-809-0987
1966 Cuda Street (dad's car) project
1968 Cuda Street/Strip (wife's car)
1971 Cuda drag car (my car)
64valiant
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Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 7:00 pm   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)   
I know with a 360 stock four barrel intake a spacer and an AFB with the 65ish four barrel breather and it would hit. But the same intake and a TQ and 69ish stock breather cleared like nobodies business.
340, aluminum E-brock heads ported by
Ryan J @ (Shady Dell Speed shop),
six pack induction
four speed built by Passon with 2.66 first gear
8 3/4 with back brace, 4:10 gears,
spool and after market axles
mini tubed
Muaddib15
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Friday, February 06, 2009 - 1:41 pm   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)   
How does your sixpack clear 64 valiant?
66 Barracuda with vinyl top all stock except for wheels. for now...

to be added at a later date:
bigger, wider wheels
360 sixpack
833 or Richmond 6 speed
Retrosound model one radio
Ricer's pwned egos >:D
64valiant
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Saturday, February 07, 2009 - 4:32 am   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)   
Well, I've been told by guy in New Mexico or Arizona(can't remember) that it would clear. His name was Max. But I had issues, I'm not running factory motor mounts either, I'm running Shumaker(?) mounts. So....................
340, aluminum E-brock heads ported by
Ryan J @ (Shady Dell Speed shop),
six pack induction
four speed built by Passon with 2.66 first gear
8 3/4 with back brace, 4:10 gears,
spool and after market axles
mini tubed
Wademetzinger
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Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 5:48 am   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)   
Here's some updated progress pictures.
Stuff under the hood is coming together...
- Spitefire headers (479-650-9989 Harold Johnson). It took about 3 weeks to get them and then I had them coated at Performance Coatings Plus in Joplin, MO (417-439-0546) (tell them I sent you please)

Headers_1
Headers_2

These are shorty headers, the finish and fit was pretty good. They have a 2.5" output/collector. They come with flanges but they don't put them on because they aren't sure how you are going to attach them and what clearance issues you may have so we just had the muffler guy put them on for us but we actually had him put them not on the headers but on the extension he put on the headers to get them just under the car and pointing back, where normal flanges go. We put the passenger side on and left it on when we dropped the motor in the the car so there is plenty of room on the passenger side. We used a 90degree oil filter adapter and pointed towards the front of the car and just slightly up. We left it a little loose until we got it in the car and made sure it cleared the steering linkage, etc and then tightened it up.

Headers_Passenger

The driver side had to be put on after the motor was installed because it's much tighter with the started, searing box, etc. It's very tight but it goes in, we did have to pull the valve cover to give us a little more room but that isn't a problem. The only thing I didn't like about the driver side is that is dumped pretty much right over the torsion bar so the exhaust/muffler guy had his work cut out for him but he was able to make it work. If they would moved the angle of where it dumped in just and inch it would have been a breeze but then I think you may run into clearance issue with the stock starter, kick-down linkage and column shift linkage but we aren't using any of that so we had room there. but like I said the exhaust/muffler guy made it work, just had to test some of his craftsmanship.

Headers_Driver

Here is a front shot and then another one with the valve covers on and a few other things.

headers_Front
SirCuda_Motor

now we just need to run new 3/8 fuel lines, install the radiator, finish the wiring and we should be ready to fire it up and take it for a test drive, hopefully next weekend.
Wade Metzinger - 918-809-0987
1966 Cuda Street (dad's car) project
1968 Cuda Street/Strip (wife's car)
1971 Cuda drag car (my car)
Wademetzinger
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Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 6:02 am   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)   
Forgot to mention for those of you discussing hood clearance above, with the Weiland Stealth intake and my Holly 750, 3310 with Proform throttle body upgrade, and the 3" K&N air filter w/ drop base, I still had room for the hood, may even use a 1/2" spacer.
Wade Metzinger - 918-809-0987
1966 Cuda Street (dad's car) project
1968 Cuda Street/Strip (wife's car)
1971 Cuda drag car (my car)
Clifcuda65
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Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 7:23 am   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)   
Oh, that is looking so sweet! I really like how you are doing it... Every thing so NEAT and Clean. That's my kind of "CUDA".

Clif of Arizona
09 SRT-8 Challenger 6 Speed
65 Cuda Formula "S" 4 Speed
Wademetzinger
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Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 7:40 am   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)   
Thanks Cliff, the wiring needs some work, hopefully working on that this weekend. I need to shorten all the wires to fit the 340 since they are /6 length and I need to figure out what to do with the spark plug wire, I bought the distributor and the wires as a set and I really don't like how they are cut and fit but they are $50 wires so I'll try to work with them... Need to mount and wire the MSD box, the 6AL, the 1-wire alternator, the starter and run a wire for the electric fan today. wish me luck and patients...
Wade Metzinger - 918-809-0987
1966 Cuda Street (dad's car) project
1968 Cuda Street/Strip (wife's car)
1971 Cuda drag car (my car)
Keith_mopar
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Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 5:25 pm   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)   
Man that's coming along nicely. Those wheels look good with the bright colour and a great looking engine bay.
What are you running for brakes?
That 340 will really go good in a light early A.
Keith Mopar
99-Ram 96-Avenger 91-Shadow 91-Daytona 89-Shadow 74-Duster 65-Cuda 92 Lebaron convertible
www.moparmagic.net
Dalerich
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Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 6:43 pm   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)   
Looking good. I have the same plan for a 340, so keep the info coming. Thanks!

The wheels, those 15"? And if so what brand? Small bolt pattern?